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By Lawrence Ferber
Still the cutting edge chronicler of the hip and hopeful,
Michael Musto discusses his career, his new book, the politics
of outting and proves he is the original gossip gangsta.
Walking over to a cabinet in his Murray Hill apartment,
Michael Musto is about to share something precious with me.
The Village Voice's loved and loathed gossip columnist, who
for 20-plus years has brought us behind the velvet ropes
to get a peek at celebrity and NYC's audacious queer nightlife,
and scrutinized stars' sexuality long before Perez Hilton
existed (and, for that matter, the Internet itself!), is
allowing us into his own world, life and apartment to commemorate
the release of La Dolce Musto: Writings by The World's Most
Outrageous Columnist (Carroll & Graf). The book compiles
columns and essays past and present, both fluffy and politically
charged, distanced and deeply personal, including ones in
which he outs a then-closeted Rosie O'Donnell, shares watching
Sandra Bernhard and then gal pal Madonna act zany onstage
at a 1989 one-time-only fundraiser, and recounts the horror
of AIDS' decimation of the gay community and the activism
it spawned.
He also touches on more current scandals involving Jim McGreevy,
Mel Gibson and Michael Jackson… which brings us to
this moment of sharing, borne when I proposed a hypothetical. “You
can spend a weekend,” I propose, “with Michael,
LaToya or Janet Jackson to do a Vanity Fair piece. Which
do you choose?”
Musto laughs. “First off, I'm touched you think those
are three separate people,” he responds. “But
I would have to pick Michael. I'm way too old for him to
be interested, so I'm safe. And the other two are pale, as
it were, imitators of him so why not go with the original.” With
that, Musto heads over to his cabinet to produce and share
a rare gem: LaToya's priceless 1994 Playboy video. And we
watch a few minutes of it.
But Musto is also refreshingly open about his personal life,
and reveals much—including the fact that he keeps seizures
in check with a medication that prevents him from drinking
alcohol—during our afternoon together. Following a
tour of his one-bedroom apartment, which is decorated with
many portraits depicting Musto and very queer kitsch, we
sit down in the living room. Musto, who also contributes
to Out magazine and has appeared on numerous networks including
VH-1, E!, and MSNBC, proffers a tin of cookies decorated
with the faces of last year's best actor Oscar nominees.
To discuss his life in gossip we begin at the beginning,
when he attended Columbia University as an English lit major…
Did you realize that gossip was what you loved, your true
calling, while you were studying at Columbia?
Yes. Even though at Columbia you have so many requirements
and we were studying The Odyssey and The Iliad and all the
Greek classics, my mind was on Cher and still is.
How easy was it to put this book together?
It was always my fantasy to grab a bunch of columns and collate
them and say, “Here's the book!” But then it
turned out to be a lot of work because I had to literally
read through thousands of columns and try to pick my favorites
and also get a good assortment from celebrities and gay
politics.
How has a juicy item from your early days changed from a
juicy item today?
There are more walls broken down as far as what constitutes
a juicy item now. Anything goes, which I actually think is
a good thing; it makes for more inaccuracies and more insensitivities
at times on behalf of the media, but there's less hypocrisy,
there's less columnists saying we shouldn't talk about their
sexuality because that's off limits. Now anything constitutes
an item, and that is because of the Internet.
But there are still publicists who tell us, “Don't
talk about sexuality,” or this, or that.
I know. I was supposed to interview Jennifer Love Hewitt
and they said, “You can't talk about her breasts,” and
I was like, why would I? I never make deals anyway with these
publicists who want to cut a deal. I just say, “Forget
it, let's not do it.”
Can you give me an example of a recent question you asked
that got you blacklisted with a publicist?
At the New York Film Critics awards I was asking everyone, “What
did you think of Bareback Mountain?” I thought it was
so cute. I asked Phillip Seymour Hoffman and he went along
with it because he didn't catch it at first and was like, “I
haven't seen Bareback Mountain.” And the publicist
went nuts and after that I wasn't allowed to talk to anybody.
You can't ask a humorous question to a celebrity, these are
serious people trying to get an Oscar. And their own cookie!
It's a tight wire act that I have to perform every week to
be snarky, bring celebrities down a peg, and yet still somehow
be adorable about it that they're not going to cut you off
every single list.
What are your thoughts on the new wave of gay gossip personalities
like Perez Hilton?
I think they're terrific and Perez has cited me as somebody
who is a pioneer in what he does so I'm honored to be acknowledged.
I think it's more in-your-face gay gossip. I think the sexuality
coverage is extremely political because it's saying to the
world there's nothing wrong with saying a celebrity is gay.
Even if this rumor is wrong it's OK to put the rumor out
there with the denial because we're not projecting any more
homophobia by acting like this is an unspeakable topic. That's
a huge political advance.
How do you feel about outing?
It's my favorite pasttime. I collect stamps, Russian dolls,
and I like to out celebrities. And I don't feel there has
to be a legitimate basis of exposing hypocrisy. That's
always fun, like a Mark Foley or a Jim McGreevy, who were
both against gay rights and gay marriage and are caught,
but I don't think that should only be used as a weapon
against hypocrites. I think it should just be OK to say
Clay Aiken is gay, what's the problem. And increasingly
it isn't becoming a problem anymore to report it.
Of all the columns in the book, which one got you into the
most trouble?
Definitely when I was outing Rosie O'Donnell. Few people
will remember that she was the “Queen of Nice,” an
ambiguous single mom in love with Tom Cruise and the media
was going along with the whole charade. I was going, “Excuse
me, people, she is the biggest diesel since Martina!” I
didn't even know this was getting to Rosie, but apparently
it was burning her up and driving her nuts. When she hosted
the Tony Awards one year, during a commercial break she said
something to the audience, only the live audience, “Oh
I would love to be the one to strap in Raquel Welch for her
costume in Victor/Victoria.” So that was her first
lesbionic thing, but it wasn't on the telecast, and then
at the party afterwards she came up to me and said, “That
remark was for you and now maybe you'll stop talking about
my private life.” And I was like, “No, I won't!” And
I kept going at it and I'm extremely proud of her now that
she came out. Not only did she come out, she came out with
fucking dyke vengeance. I watch The View. I love it.
What is the difference between East Coast and West Coast
gossip? I will say that everything I have ever heard in L.A.
has proven to be true.
I think, because of the Internet, differences in East and
West Coast gossip have gotten less. But I think in L.A. it's
more about stars, starlets and attractive people, and in
New York you read more about power brokers.
Has anything during your career haunted you?
I've never been haunted by anything I've written because
I really don't regret anything I've written. I think it's
all true, I've never even been sued in over 20 years. Can
you imagine? I'm more haunted by my own personal choices.
Like I'll turn down a TV show or I'll screw something up.
I have a self-sabotaging quality on some level, but on
another level I am very hard working and never screw anything
up. It's this weird dichotomy, craving the spotlight and
working at it very hard and then sometimes blowing opportunities
to go bigger.
Has anyone ever reported or exposed something about you?
Someone once e-mailed me and said they saw me at some gay
sex party. Oh, that's really… Your next scoop is
going to be the sky is blue, or the pope is Catholic. I've
written about my sex life, I'm quite openly gay so there's
really nothing anyone has on me.
Madonna comes up a lot in the book. Have you ever, though,
actually had a one-on-one experience with her?
I had a band called The Must, which was a Motown cover band,
and before she was famous we were on the same bill at a nightclub.
We were equal. That's how low down Madonna was at that point.
And she behaved every inch the superstar as if she were already
queen of the world. We never got a sound check because she
tested the mic from every angle until the club opened. And
afterwards, we were sharing a dressing room and her manager
didn't want us to receive friends because Madonna was getting
ready. Which was ironic—she didn't want strangers to
see Madonna naked. Now the whole world is her gynecologist.
Interestingly, I've never spoken with Madonna. Our paths
have crossed 8 million times. But I'm not trying to become
friends with celebs. Like I don't want to go bowling with
Meryl Streep or anything. I'd rather keep a distance and
write what I want. Plus she's not calling so it works out!
Who would you pass your torch to? Is that something you
think about?
No. I want to die while I'm RSVPing. And then I want to be
put in a Hefty bag and leaned against a garbage pail. But
I'm not one of those noble people who wants to anoint a new
me. I think having a new me would be a nightmare for me.
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